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		<title>More Notes from the SANE Conference on Temples</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the interest of keeping my promise, I am posting further notes from the presentations I saw at the SANE Conference on Temples and Rituals in Antiquity that was held November 7 at BYU. Although it may be rather &#8220;in-SANE&#8221; to post these notes after all the videos have already been posted, I hope they [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sane.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-639" title="sane" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sane.jpg" alt="" width="100" height="100" /></a>In the interest of keeping my promise, I am posting further notes from the presentations I saw at the SANE Conference on Temples and Rituals in Antiquity that was held November 7 at BYU. Although it may be rather &#8220;in-SANE&#8221; to post these notes after all the videos have already been posted, I hope they may be of some use. At least you can sit down and scan over these notes quickly if you don&#8217;t have time to watch the whole presentation.</p>
<p>Having said that, I cannot promise that my notes will be a good representation of what the speakers actually said. Anyone comparing what I have written and what the persons actually said will be able to see how &#8220;creative&#8221; I was with my note taking. Nevertheless, and notwithstanding the level of my note-taking skills, I hope to present you with some of the great insights I was able to take from these great presentations.</p>
<h3>James Carroll &#8212; An Expanded View of the Israelite Scapegoat</h3>
<p>The Israelite Day of Atonement ritual involved two goats. Each had a seal on its forehead. One said &#8220;l&#8217;YHWH&#8221; (=to Yahweh) and the other was marked &#8220;to Azazel.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2goats.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-631" title="2goats" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2goats.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="267" /></a></p>
<p>It is the goat that is to/for Yahweh that is killed. It&#8217;s blood is carried by the high priest into the Holy of Holies and sprinkled before the throne of God.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bloodtosprinkle.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-632" title="bloodtosprinkle" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bloodtosprinkle.jpg" alt="" width="199" height="198" /></a></p>
<p>The Azazel goat is left alive. After the high priest returns from the Holy of Holies, he places his hands on this goat&#8217;s head and sends it out into the wilderness. This goat is known as the scapegoat.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/confess.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-634" title="confess" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/confess.jpg" alt="" width="400" height="270" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/confess.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/takeaway.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-635" title="takeaway" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/takeaway.jpg" alt="" width="276" height="264" /></a></p>
<p>The questions is: who does the scapegoat (the one for Azazel) represent? Justin Martyr and Barnabas say that the scapegoat represents Christ. Clement and Irenaeus say that it represents Azazel/Satan.</p>
<p>It would be easy to compare the two goats to the two pre-existent figures involved in the plan of salvation&#8211;Jehovah/Jesus and Lucifer. The story of these two could be the tradition behind the Day of Atonement ritual.</p>
<p>We should also consider the story of Adam and the two penalties for his sin&#8211;Death and Expulsion from the Garden.</p>
<p>Other stories which display this same dualistic imagery include:</p>
<ul>
<li>Cain and Abel&#8211;one dies, the other is expelled </li>
<li>Isaac and Ishmael&#8211;Isaac&#8217;s (near) sacrifice, Ishmael driven into the wilderness</li>
<li>Joseph&#8211;goat killed in his place, he is exiled</li>
<li>Christ and Barabbas&#8211;Christ slain and Barabbas freed</li>
</ul>
<p>Another example would be the Levites&#8211;they represent the firstborns of all families of all tribes in their service to the Lord.</p>
<p>We should consider the fact that the scapegoat was banished for the people&#8217;s sins, and not for its own.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Substitution</span> is what is being taught. </p>
<p>The goats should likely be seen as representing the penalties of sin: death and banishment. The two goats represent Death and Sin&#8211;they have things in common with both Christ and Satan.</p>
<p>The Atonement reverses these effects, which come from the Fall.</p>
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<h3>Dr. David Seely &#8212; The Temple as Cosmos in Josephus&#8217; Antiquities</h3>
<p>Josephus&#8217; work, <em>Jewish Antiquities, </em>represents the Israelite Tabernacle as a model of the whole cosmos. He both adds many things and fails to include details from the biblical account.  Why does he include this idea that the tabernacle/temple is a model of the cosmos and where did he get it from?</p>
<p>&#8211;Important note: the tabernacle is nothing more nor less than a portable temple. Temple = model of the cosmos. Temple worship = cosmic worship.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/priestly-clothing.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-443" title="priestly-clothing" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/priestly-clothing.jpg" alt="" width="200" height="350" /></a></p>
<p>In Josephus&#8217; descriptions of the tabernacle, there are many astronomical images. For example, the stones on the high priest&#8217;s breastplate are supposed to represent the zodiac. The pomegranates and bells that hang from the bottom of his robe are supposed to represent thunder and lightning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mishkanministries.org/images/robeofhighpriest1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-636" title="robeofhighpriest1" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/robeofhighpriest1.jpg" alt="" width="458" height="338" /></a></p>
<p>There are a number of sources that Josephus could have used to obtain this cosmic imagery.</p>
<ul>
<li>Ancient Near Eastern history and culture</li>
<li>Hebrew Bible itself</li>
<li>Hellenistic culture</li>
<li>Philo</li>
<li>Common Jewish culture</li>
</ul>
<p>Josephus doesn&#8217;t refer to ancient Near Eastern traditions in his work. He also doesn&#8217;t refer to biblical tradition on this matter. </p>
<p>The Stoics, a philosophical school of Hellenistic culture, believed that the cosmos is a temple.</p>
<p>Philo has two works dedicated to this topic, but Josephus does not follow Philo&#8217;s style.</p>
<p>Midrash Tadshe preserves Jewish temple tradition and although it is not a mainstream source, it is perhaps behind the thinking of both Philo and Josephus.</p>
<p>Josephus probably includes this material in order to defend the antiquity of Jewish ideas. The Jewish religion is the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">oldest</span> religion. The Law of Moses is the superior constitution for mankind.</p>
<p>The &#8220;temple as cosmos&#8221; theme was likely popular for his hellenistic audience&#8211;it appeals to a Stoic-Cynic point of view.</p>
<p>In 1935, an ancient synagogue was uncovered which contained depictions of the temple. There was depicted Aaron&#8217;s temple and another temple. On the other temple, there was a mural that depicted the Zodiac. This was the Temple of the Cosmos. Many, as Goodenough did, thought that this was due to Hellenistic influence. However, this appears to be the ancient perspective of the purpose of the temple.</p>
<div id="attachment_637" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/300px-beit_alpha.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-637" title="300px-beit_alpha" src="http://www.heavenlyascents.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/300px-beit_alpha.jpg" alt="A depiction of the Zodiac in a 6th-century Jewish synagogue at Beit Alpha, Israel." width="300" height="305" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A depiction of the Zodiac in a 6th-century Jewish synagogue at Beit Alpha, Israel.</p></div>
<p>The finding of this synagogue presents possible evidence that there was a priestly/temple Judaism that existed alongside Rabbinic Judaism for a long time.</p>
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